# Moment About a Point (Vector Calculations)

Given any point on an extended body, if there is a force acting on that body that does not travel through that point, then that force will cause a moment about that point. As discussed on the moments page, a moment is a force's tendency to cause rotation.

## The Vector Method in 2 and 3 Dimensions

An alternative to calculating the moment via scalar quantities is to
use the **vector method **or **cross product method**. For simple two
dimensional problems, using scalar quantities is usually easier, but for
more complex problems, using the cross product method is usually easier.
The cross product method for calculating moments says that the moment
vector of a force about a point will be equal to the cross product of a
vector **r** from the point to anywhere on the line of action of the force
and the force vector itself.

A big advantage of this method is that r does not have to be the
shortest distance between the point and the line of action, it goes from
the point to any part of the line of action. For any problem, there are
many possible **r** vectors, though because of the way the cross product
works, they should all result in the same moment vector in the end.

It is important to note here that all quantities (**r**,
**F** and **M**) are
vectors. Before you can solve for the cross product, you will need to
write out **r** and **F** in vector component form.
Also, even for two dimensional problems, you will need to write out all
three components of the **r** and **F **
vectors. For two dimensional problems the z components of the **r**
and **F** vectors will simply be zero, but those values are
necessary for the calculations.

The moment vector you get will line up with the axis of rotation for the moment, where you can use the right hand rule to determine if the moment is going clockwise or counterclockwise about that axis.

Finally, it is also important to note that cross product, unlike
multiplication, is not communicative. This means that the order of the
vectors matters, and **r** cross **F** will
not be the same as **F** cross **r**. It is
important to always use **r** cross **F** when
calculating moments.